Productive Flourishing
Productive Flourishing
Episode 21 - Gathering the People with Sarah Bray

Episode 21 - Gathering the People with Sarah Bray

Sarah Bray is a wife and homeschooling mom who has spent the past nine years working with clients as a strategic designer, front-end developer, and nation-builder. She has consulted with over 100 clients on content strategy, product design, marketing strategy, brand and identity development, and online business development. Now she is mostly a writer who is about to finish up her new book Gather the People. She is a huge advocate for nation building as a people-first alternative to traditional marketing and business development and always has a lot of projects going on. She joins Charlie on the show today to talk about what she does and how she got to where she is.

Key Takeaways:

01:33 – Sarah started out as a Web designer.

04:11 – Sarah decided she wanted to care about what she was working on, so she shut down her Web design studio and started her own marketing company.

05:39 – Shortly afterwards, Sarah went to work for a software company in Washington State.

08:35 – Sarah gave herself three weeks to write her book, and she is now on the last week.

10:44 – People confuse risk and uncertainty, and that’s a huge mistake.

17:45 – The trick to wanting to put something out there, a big idea you have, is to reduce the scope of what you’re doing to something that’s really small, and then make that one small thing really well and fantastic.

21:10 – What is really hard about growing as an entrepreneur is competing with your past self all the time.

26:29 – Everything that we make and create has the potential to expand someone else’s world.

31:46 – Sarah also homeschools her kids.

40:21 – There’s conflict in everything that you learn, and sometimes that conflict involves other people.

Mentioned In This Episode:

Gather the People

Julianne Rhodes



Twyla Tharp


The Chairs Are Where the People Go – Misha Glouberman

Lori Pickert

Productive Flourishing
Productive Flourishing
Productive Flourishing (formerly the Creative Giant Show) explores how to do the work that matters to become your best self in the world. Host Charlie Gilkey and occasional co-host Angela Wheeler take listeners on a deep dive into the lives of leaders, changemakers, creatives, and entrepreneurs who are thriving in life and business by doing work that matters. Listen in to see how they cultivate meaning, success, and happiness as well as their approach to productivity, business, health, and the challenges (yes, even the deep, dark ones) that show up in their lives.