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	<title>Comments on: Should You Be A Tour Guide or An Expedition Leader?</title>
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		<title>By: Your Input Needed: The Ecuador Project &#124; The Journal of Cultural Conversation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Input Needed: The Ecuador Project &#124; The Journal of Cultural Conversation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of course, accepting this invitation was a no-brainer. I am eternally grateful and hope this is one of many such projects and expeditions I&#8217;ll lead during my lifetime. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mary E. Ulrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary E. Ulrich</dc:creator>
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		<description>Interesting arguments about being a Tour Guide or an Expedition Leader. I had never thought about this before in quite these terms. Joel Barker uses the terms: &quot;Paradigm Shifter, Paradigm Pioneer and Paradigm Settler&quot;. With further study the concepts probably overlap somehow.

I guess I never wanted to be a leader on the front line, a paradigm shifter. But sometimes life just puts you in circumstances where you have little choice. It&#039;s no fun taking bullets or having to face the people who want to keep the status quo. It means getting smarter than they are, having the persistance to outlast them, and making friends with other thought leaders. I have no clue when to be a Tour Guide vs. Expedition Leader. Maybe you could give us more direction on this. It is an intriguing idea, I do things wrong most of the time. But, I guess the qualities of a leader are that you just keep moving, clearing the path into the jungle, and you keep second-guessing yourself every minute while you are swatting the mosquitoes. Damn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting arguments about being a Tour Guide or an Expedition Leader. I had never thought about this before in quite these terms. Joel Barker uses the terms: &#8220;Paradigm Shifter, Paradigm Pioneer and Paradigm Settler&#8221;. With further study the concepts probably overlap somehow.</p>
<p>I guess I never wanted to be a leader on the front line, a paradigm shifter. But sometimes life just puts you in circumstances where you have little choice. It&#8217;s no fun taking bullets or having to face the people who want to keep the status quo. It means getting smarter than they are, having the persistance to outlast them, and making friends with other thought leaders. I have no clue when to be a Tour Guide vs. Expedition Leader. Maybe you could give us more direction on this. It is an intriguing idea, I do things wrong most of the time. But, I guess the qualities of a leader are that you just keep moving, clearing the path into the jungle, and you keep second-guessing yourself every minute while you are swatting the mosquitoes. Damn.</p>
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		<title>By: Using Freedom And Constraints To Create A Life You Love: An Interview With Adam Baker, ManVsDebt.com &#171; Agile Living</title>
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		<dc:creator>Using Freedom And Constraints To Create A Life You Love: An Interview With Adam Baker, ManVsDebt.com &#171; Agile Living</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] guide is a good mix of inspiring expedition leadership and practical tour-guide leadership where he gives you concrete self-coaching questions and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: If You&#8217;re Fighting Yourself, Someone&#8217;s Gonna Lose… &#171; Mine Your Resources</title>
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		<dc:creator>If You&#8217;re Fighting Yourself, Someone&#8217;s Gonna Lose… &#171; Mine Your Resources</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 14:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] answer the powerful self-coaching questions that Charlie and Jonathan pose. The Dojo is more of an expedition than a tour, so in that sense, it&#8217;s a program for grown-ups who have enough experience and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: a useful model found&#8230; &#171; Fiadhiglas Designs</title>
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		<dc:creator>a useful model found&#8230; &#171; Fiadhiglas Designs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a helpful metaphor for the problem of divergent learning styles I talked about in my 3.13 post: Tour Guides vs. Expedition Leaders (although the linked blog post is actually written for and about solopreneurs, not artists). I only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a helpful metaphor for the problem of divergent learning styles I talked about in my 3.13 post: Tour Guides vs. Expedition Leaders (although the linked blog post is actually written for and about solopreneurs, not artists). I only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How To Keep Moving And Creating What You Love When You Love Lots Of Things And You Don&#8217;t Have a Neat, Narrow Niche &#171; Mine Your Resources</title>
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		<dc:creator>How To Keep Moving And Creating What You Love When You Love Lots Of Things And You Don&#8217;t Have a Neat, Narrow Niche &#171; Mine Your Resources</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] when we&#8217;re looking to leaders, most people want to follow Tour Guides who&#8217;ve pinned down all the details and call tell you for certain what you&#8217;re going to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Getting in Touch With Your Inner Expedition Leader — Fun Life Development</title>
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		<dc:creator>Getting in Touch With Your Inner Expedition Leader — Fun Life Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I read a great post for bloggers by Cath Duncan recently, about tour guides and expedition leaders. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cath Duncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cath Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Vlad, glad you found this distinction useful. A lot of sites that teach us how to write for blogs are promoting the tour guiding style, emphasizing fast and convenient and making it easier for people to scan the post. And that&#039;s fine if you&#039;re dealing with tour guiding territory. 

The reality is that the masses do love list posts, but if you&#039;re writing tour-guide style, you&#039;ll attract people who want to go on tours. And those people are often a fickle audience. My sense is that, to hold your audience over time, you need to have at least some elements of expedition leadership, because expedition leadership requires audience participation and when people participate, if you&#039;re providing ongoing value, they develop a real relationship that endures.

Most aspects of personal development get into Expedition territory anyway, and if you&#039;re into expeditions and you want to attract readers who are into expeditions, then it can be useful (great post about useful/ interesting on your blog, by the way!) to adjust your style so that you write for people who want to go on expeditions. 

Seth Godin is a great example. He&#039;s been talking a lot about the fact that his latest book, Linchpin, is all about ideals, and he doesn&#039;t give people a step-by-step guide on what to do. He&#039;s an unapologetic expedition leader, and he tends to attract people who want to go on expeditions.
.-= Cath Duncan´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mineyourresources.com/2010/02/goal-setting-whos-really-in-control/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Goal-Setting: Who’s Really In Control?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Vlad, glad you found this distinction useful. A lot of sites that teach us how to write for blogs are promoting the tour guiding style, emphasizing fast and convenient and making it easier for people to scan the post. And that&#8217;s fine if you&#8217;re dealing with tour guiding territory. </p>
<p>The reality is that the masses do love list posts, but if you&#8217;re writing tour-guide style, you&#8217;ll attract people who want to go on tours. And those people are often a fickle audience. My sense is that, to hold your audience over time, you need to have at least some elements of expedition leadership, because expedition leadership requires audience participation and when people participate, if you&#8217;re providing ongoing value, they develop a real relationship that endures.</p>
<p>Most aspects of personal development get into Expedition territory anyway, and if you&#8217;re into expeditions and you want to attract readers who are into expeditions, then it can be useful (great post about useful/ interesting on your blog, by the way!) to adjust your style so that you write for people who want to go on expeditions. </p>
<p>Seth Godin is a great example. He&#8217;s been talking a lot about the fact that his latest book, Linchpin, is all about ideals, and he doesn&#8217;t give people a step-by-step guide on what to do. He&#8217;s an unapologetic expedition leader, and he tends to attract people who want to go on expeditions.<br />
.-= Cath Duncan´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.mineyourresources.com/2010/02/goal-setting-whos-really-in-control/" rel="nofollow">Goal-Setting: Who’s Really In Control?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad Dolezal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vlad Dolezal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very intriguing post, Cath!

I guess I&#039;m mostly an expedition leader. But now that I&#039;ve read this, I realize I haven&#039;t always spoken to my ideal audience very clearly... people who go on expeditions don&#039;t really want quick fixes and fun little ideas - they want interesting deep territories to explore.

I&#039;ll go ponder my upcoming blog posts now, and see if I can be a better expedition leader! :)
.-= Vlad Dolezal´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AnAmazingMind/~3/CWkWP9t-10M/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Interesting, Useful, or Neither?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very intriguing post, Cath!</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m mostly an expedition leader. But now that I&#8217;ve read this, I realize I haven&#8217;t always spoken to my ideal audience very clearly&#8230; people who go on expeditions don&#8217;t really want quick fixes and fun little ideas &#8211; they want interesting deep territories to explore.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go ponder my upcoming blog posts now, and see if I can be a better expedition leader! <img src='http://www.productiveflourishing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Vlad Dolezal´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AnAmazingMind/~3/CWkWP9t-10M/" rel="nofollow">Interesting, Useful, or Neither?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...tour guiding and expedition leadership as required and know how to decide which style to use in each situation.&quot;

For me, this shows up with writing clients as the decision to coach them or consult with them, which is more advice-giving and way pointing than asking coaching questions that deepen their own wisdom rather than showing mine. 

I like using both, and it is an art to know what&#039;s right when.
.-= Cynthia Morris´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/typepad/Cynthiam/journeyjuju/~3/_myMXM5mg9s/one-of-the-reasons-i-set-up-my-excursions-without-lodging-is-that-everyone-has-a-certain-standard-for-nesting-while-traveling.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Where to Stay in Amsterdam: Amster-lodging for the Curious&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;tour guiding and expedition leadership as required and know how to decide which style to use in each situation.&#8221;</p>
<p>For me, this shows up with writing clients as the decision to coach them or consult with them, which is more advice-giving and way pointing than asking coaching questions that deepen their own wisdom rather than showing mine. </p>
<p>I like using both, and it is an art to know what&#8217;s right when.<br />
.-= Cynthia Morris´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/typepad/Cynthiam/journeyjuju/~3/_myMXM5mg9s/one-of-the-reasons-i-set-up-my-excursions-without-lodging-is-that-everyone-has-a-certain-standard-for-nesting-while-traveling.html" rel="nofollow">Where to Stay in Amsterdam: Amster-lodging for the Curious</a> =-.</p>
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