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		<title>By: David Dittell</title>
		<link>http://www.productiveflourishing.com/bringing-conversations-back-to-blogging/#comment-3014</link>
		<dc:creator>David Dittell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie,

Fascinating discussion; I&#039;m going to start putting this more in practice by turning super-long comment posts into posts on my own blog.  Obviously, I haven&#039;t started it with this one though.

Looking forward to all the new directions here at PF.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;David Dittells last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://alphabetsoupkitchen.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-not-give.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How To Not Give A !@%$#@&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie,</p>
<p>Fascinating discussion; I&#8217;m going to start putting this more in practice by turning super-long comment posts into posts on my own blog.  Obviously, I haven&#8217;t started it with this one though.</p>
<p>Looking forward to all the new directions here at PF.</p>
<p><abbr><em>David Dittells last blog post..<a href="http://alphabetsoupkitchen.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-not-give.html" rel="nofollow">How To Not Give A !@%$#@</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Following a thread as far as I can &#124; Dancing Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Following a thread as far as I can &#124; Dancing Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] limit of the blog post?  They&#8217;re not books, they&#8217;re not written so as to finish the conversation, but rather to start or continue it.  And yet, it still always feels like there&#8217;s so much [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] limit of the blog post?  They&#8217;re not books, they&#8217;re not written so as to finish the conversation, but rather to start or continue it.  And yet, it still always feels like there&#8217;s so much [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Friday&#8217;s Web Round-Up &#124; website design &#124; usability and accessibility &#124; social media &#124; online marketing &#124; fog of eternity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday&#8217;s Web Round-Up &#124; website design &#124; usability and accessibility &#124; social media &#124; online marketing &#124; fog of eternity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#039;Bringing Conversations (Back?) to Blogging&#039; - Productive Flourishing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen - Rat Race Trap</title>
		<link>http://www.productiveflourishing.com/bringing-conversations-back-to-blogging/#comment-2756</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen - Rat Race Trap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For instance, when a particular post speaks to you and you have a lot to say about it, rather than leave a comment or pop a link in a roll-up, why not write a post that explicitly honors the conversation and continues it? You win because you have an easy post to write; they win because they get a link and have the thrill of having their conversation spread. We all win because we’re thinking in terms of conversations rather than posts.&quot;

This is an excellent idea that I never really thought of before.  Thanks for that.  I really enjoy reading your writing Charlie.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Stephen - Rat Race Traps last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheRatRaceTrap/~3/s1xYSQ3ytzM/how-to-be-successful-by-developing-killer-habits.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Be Successful by Developing Killer Habits&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For instance, when a particular post speaks to you and you have a lot to say about it, rather than leave a comment or pop a link in a roll-up, why not write a post that explicitly honors the conversation and continues it? You win because you have an easy post to write; they win because they get a link and have the thrill of having their conversation spread. We all win because we’re thinking in terms of conversations rather than posts.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is an excellent idea that I never really thought of before.  Thanks for that.  I really enjoy reading your writing Charlie.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Stephen &#8211; Rat Race Traps last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheRatRaceTrap/~3/s1xYSQ3ytzM/how-to-be-successful-by-developing-killer-habits.html" rel="nofollow">How to Be Successful by Developing Killer Habits</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: JoVE</title>
		<link>http://www.productiveflourishing.com/bringing-conversations-back-to-blogging/#comment-2753</link>
		<dc:creator>JoVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I agree with what you are saying here but I guess I mostly hang out in a different blogging universe where the conversation thing doesn&#039;t feel like it should be talked about in the past tense (knitters and homeschoolers is my big blogging community; I do that at http://jove.homeschooljournal.net).

But I also didn&#039;t know that there was a difference between a trackback and a pingback. The joy of trackbacks for me is that they appear with the comments and thus there is a way for the people reading that original post to find your contribution to the conversation by following the link in the trackback. Not just the writer of the post, but the people who are reading their post.

And I don&#039;t see a lot of trackbacks listed on posts in some of the more businessy blogs. So beyond leaving a comment with the link to one&#039;s own contribution, how do you make sure people (not just the writer of the post you are responding to, supposing they check their stats to find out whose linking to them) actually see your response.

Or do you need to do a bit of a tech tutorial to get everyone up to speed on these things ;-)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;JoVEs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://jovanevery.ca/2009/03/graduate-school-careers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What is a doctoral candidate to do?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I agree with what you are saying here but I guess I mostly hang out in a different blogging universe where the conversation thing doesn&#8217;t feel like it should be talked about in the past tense (knitters and homeschoolers is my big blogging community; I do that at <a href="http://jove.homeschooljournal.net" rel="nofollow">http://jove.homeschooljournal.net</a>).</p>
<p>But I also didn&#8217;t know that there was a difference between a trackback and a pingback. The joy of trackbacks for me is that they appear with the comments and thus there is a way for the people reading that original post to find your contribution to the conversation by following the link in the trackback. Not just the writer of the post, but the people who are reading their post.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t see a lot of trackbacks listed on posts in some of the more businessy blogs. So beyond leaving a comment with the link to one&#8217;s own contribution, how do you make sure people (not just the writer of the post you are responding to, supposing they check their stats to find out whose linking to them) actually see your response.</p>
<p>Or do you need to do a bit of a tech tutorial to get everyone up to speed on these things <img src='http://www.productiveflourishing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><abbr><em>JoVEs last blog post..<a href="http://jovanevery.ca/2009/03/graduate-school-careers/" rel="nofollow">What is a doctoral candidate to do?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Ulla Hennig</title>
		<link>http://www.productiveflourishing.com/bringing-conversations-back-to-blogging/#comment-2745</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulla Hennig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie,
&quot;the conversational power of blogging&quot; - There are some blogs which have that power - Joanna Young&#039;s blog at http://www.confidentwriting.com, Liz Strauss&#039; blog and yours as well. Every time I visit them I have the impression that I am welcomed and invited to communicate, and, that I am listened to.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ulla Hennigs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ullahennig.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/in-the-morning-of-my-life/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In the Morning of my Life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie,<br />
&#8220;the conversational power of blogging&#8221; &#8211; There are some blogs which have that power &#8211; Joanna Young&#8217;s blog at <a href="http://www.confidentwriting.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.confidentwriting.com</a>, Liz Strauss&#8217; blog and yours as well. Every time I visit them I have the impression that I am welcomed and invited to communicate, and, that I am listened to.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ulla Hennigs last blog post..<a href="http://ullahennig.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/in-the-morning-of-my-life/" rel="nofollow">In the Morning of my Life</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nathan: I&#039;m glad this got you thinking. Almost every post I write is that way; I can tell when I haven&#039;t been reading or talking to people because I actually have to think of something to write about.

@Robin: It&#039;s had an impact, but not a &quot;serious&quot; one. The 140 character limit keeps people from having to meaningful of a conversation, and the discussions on Twitter, done correctly, send traffic back to the original source. But I&#039;ve found myself doing tweets of conversations where I used to do linky posts.

I guess Twitter can serve that middle ground between the &quot;great post!&quot; comment and a link mention. In many ways, it serves that purpose better because it hits a larger readership than what most bloggers have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nathan: I&#8217;m glad this got you thinking. Almost every post I write is that way; I can tell when I haven&#8217;t been reading or talking to people because I actually have to think of something to write about.</p>
<p>@Robin: It&#8217;s had an impact, but not a &#8220;serious&#8221; one. The 140 character limit keeps people from having to meaningful of a conversation, and the discussions on Twitter, done correctly, send traffic back to the original source. But I&#8217;ve found myself doing tweets of conversations where I used to do linky posts.</p>
<p>I guess Twitter can serve that middle ground between the &#8220;great post!&#8221; comment and a link mention. In many ways, it serves that purpose better because it hits a larger readership than what most bloggers have.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Cannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Cannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think that Twitter has had a serious impact on limiting that kind of extended conversation? In addition to the usual links and trackbacks on other blogs, Twitter seems to pull in a lot of the attention of people who choose to retweet rather than address the points of the original blog post in more detail.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Robin Cannons last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FogOfEternity/~3/ejT3JWdD794/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Finding Inspiration On The Web&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think that Twitter has had a serious impact on limiting that kind of extended conversation? In addition to the usual links and trackbacks on other blogs, Twitter seems to pull in a lot of the attention of people who choose to retweet rather than address the points of the original blog post in more detail.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Robin Cannons last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FogOfEternity/~3/ejT3JWdD794/" rel="nofollow">Finding Inspiration On The Web</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A way I&#039;ve not thought about blogging for a while. It&#039;s very true. I never sit there and just imagine something up to write about, it&#039;s usually in response to something someone else has written but I don&#039;t really try to carry on the conversation. I seem to make an effort to make it sound like my own thinking, which largely it is but only based on other people&#039;s thoughts and ideas.

Thanks, maybe I&#039;ll write a short post and link back to this! There&#039;s a start.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nathan Becks last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/flamedigital/~3/FoIze00WsLc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Recruiting for five&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A way I&#8217;ve not thought about blogging for a while. It&#8217;s very true. I never sit there and just imagine something up to write about, it&#8217;s usually in response to something someone else has written but I don&#8217;t really try to carry on the conversation. I seem to make an effort to make it sound like my own thinking, which largely it is but only based on other people&#8217;s thoughts and ideas.</p>
<p>Thanks, maybe I&#8217;ll write a short post and link back to this! There&#8217;s a start.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Nathan Becks last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/flamedigital/~3/FoIze00WsLc/" rel="nofollow">Recruiting for five</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Conversational blogging &#124; Dancing Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conversational blogging &#124; Dancing Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has written about how he sometimes finds himself writing very long comments, which he then knows he wants to turn into a blog post [...]</description>
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